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Woolworths to open new city store
The Woolworths store in Southampton before it closed
The Woolworths store in Southampton before it closed

Woolworths is to open a new store in Southampton, just months after putting up the shutters on its Above Bar flagship store.

At 5,000 square feet, the new Bitterne branch of the chain is less than a quarter of the size of the city centre outlet that closed.

Due to start trading in October and stocking a range of 10,000 products, the opening takes the number of Woolworths in the area to five - Shirley, Woolston, Totton and Portswood, with larger stores in Eastleigh, Romsey and Fareham.

Employing more than 15 staff, the store will carry CDs and DVDs, confectionery and children's clothing, along with an extended range of 250,000 products, which can be ordered at any till point and delivered to the store via the company's Big Red Book catalogue.

Southampton shoppers were stunned in August when bosses announced the Above Bar store was to close with the loss of 49 jobs.

7:26am Monday 3rd March 2008

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Posted by: Condor Man, Southampton on 8:02am Mon 3 Mar 08
Woolies pulled out of Bitterne about 25 years ago so why would they want to come back? A Wilkinsons would have been a better shop to have.
Posted by: woolies fan, soton on 8:09am Mon 3 Mar 08
i think they would do better back in town,it is so missed why put one in bitterne who goes there!! hopefully they will employ more friendly staff not like some of the miserable stoney face cows town employed.
Posted by: debbi, soton on 8:14am Mon 3 Mar 08
what's the point in opening a new, smaller store in a small shopping precinct when the store in town was perfectly fine (apart from not having a customer lift or excelator going down) it just seems stupid! they should have kept the store in town!
Posted by: Dr. Who on 8:28am Mon 3 Mar 08
debbi wrote:
what's the point in opening a new, smaller store in a small shopping precinct when the store in town was perfectly fine (apart from not having a customer lift or excelator going down) it just seems stupid! they should have kept the store in town!
excelator
???

They have excelators.....manki
nd is doomed unless I can take it out with a blast from my sonic screwdriver !
Posted by: steve on 8:41am Mon 3 Mar 08
Woolworths closing in the City was no loss has it employed. rude staff including the Manager. To be honest they shouls close Shirley Branch as well . As for them going into Bitterne they be right at home there as most of the people in bitterne are rude or single mums....
Posted by: debbi, soton on 8:42am Mon 3 Mar 08
Dr. Who wrote:
debbi wrote: what's the point in opening a new, smaller store in a small shopping precinct when the store in town was perfectly fine (apart from not having a customer lift or excelator going down) it just seems stupid! they should have kept the store in town!
excelator
??? They have excelators.....manki nd is doomed unless I can take it out with a blast from my sonic screwdriver !
so sorry about my spelling! jeez!
and the store in the city centre only had one going up not down!!!!!!! which was the point i was making!
Posted by: Family Man, Bitterne on 8:45am Mon 3 Mar 08
What hasn't been made clear is where in Bitterne?

My suspicion is that it will replace the store that was Safeway's, then Morrisions, then Sainsbury's...on West End Road. The current Sainsbury's is very rarely busy and hopefully the staff there can be redeployed to the other branch in the Precinct.

If I am wrong, and Woolworth's moves into one of the units in the precinct, then I doubt the West End Road Sainsbury's has much of a future.

I suspect that Woolworth's will be reasonably popular and attract a few extra shoppers to Bitterne. I don't use the Woolston Woolworth's, and doubt I would use one in Bitterne, even though I live there, but I am sure there are those who would.

What would be nice to see is more use to be made of the precinct, perhaps the occasional market.
Posted by: Family Man, Bitterne on 8:45am Mon 3 Mar 08
What hasn't been made clear is where in Bitterne?

My suspicion is that it will replace the store that was Safeway's, then Morrisions, then Sainsbury's...on West End Road. The current Sainsbury's is very rarely busy and hopefully the staff there can be redeployed to the other branch in the Precinct.

If I am wrong, and Woolworth's moves into one of the units in the precinct, then I doubt the West End Road Sainsbury's has much of a future.

I suspect that Woolworth's will be reasonably popular and attract a few extra shoppers to Bitterne. I don't use the Woolston Woolworth's, and doubt I would use one in Bitterne, even though I live there, but I am sure there are those who would.

What would be nice to see is more use to be made of the precinct, perhaps the occasional market.
Posted by: Family Man, Bitterne on 8:45am Mon 3 Mar 08
What hasn't been made clear is where in Bitterne?

My suspicion is that it will replace the store that was Safeway's, then Morrisions, then Sainsbury's...on West End Road. The current Sainsbury's is very rarely busy and hopefully the staff there can be redeployed to the other branch in the Precinct.

If I am wrong, and Woolworth's moves into one of the units in the precinct, then I doubt the West End Road Sainsbury's has much of a future.

I suspect that Woolworth's will be reasonably popular and attract a few extra shoppers to Bitterne. I don't use the Woolston Woolworth's, and doubt I would use one in Bitterne, even though I live there, but I am sure there are those who would.

What would be nice to see is more use to be made of the precinct, perhaps the occasional market.
Posted by: Chas, Bitterne on 9:06am Mon 3 Mar 08
I understand it's going beneath the Bitterne Bowl where the hardware shop used to be.

Also there may be some markets in the precinct, farmers and others.

Posted by: Family Man, Bitterne on 9:25am Mon 3 Mar 08
Chas wrote:
I understand it's going beneath the Bitterne Bowl where the hardware shop used to be. Also there may be some markets in the precinct, farmers and others.
Thanks!

In which case it will be a tiny Woolworth's, in fact the smallest I have ever seen...

I miss that hardware shop! It was very much of the "old school", stocking almost everything, however obscure, ands good knowledgeable service. The only one I know now that is like it is in Portswood, all the others have gone. Unfortunatley the big players like B&Q and Homebase have made them economically unviable.

Posted by: local on 10:12am Mon 3 Mar 08
Why have other shops closed down in the city centre?

Extortionate rent.
Posted by: GL, Hants on 10:16am Mon 3 Mar 08
How can Woolworths in Romsey be described as a "larger store". It is tiny, crammed with stock and an unpleasant shopping experience. I am assuming the Echo reporter has not visited this particular store or has little local knowledge!
Posted by: Sotonian on 10:18am Mon 3 Mar 08
Family Man wrote:
What hasn't been made clear is where in Bitterne? My suspicion is that it will replace the store that was Safeway's, then Morrisions, then Sainsbury's...on West End Road. The current Sainsbury's is very rarely busy and hopefully the staff there can be redeployed to the other branch in the Precinct. If I am wrong, and Woolworth's moves into one of the units in the precinct, then I doubt the West End Road Sainsbury's has much of a future. I suspect that Woolworth's will be reasonably popular and attract a few extra shoppers to Bitterne. I don't use the Woolston Woolworth's, and doubt I would use one in Bitterne, even though I live there, but I am sure there are those who would. What would be nice to see is more use to be made of the precinct, perhaps the occasional market.
Considering the Woolworth's store is planning to employe 15 staff only... the site you mentioned maybe a little big for them to cope with?
Posted by: Chas49, Southampton on 10:39am Mon 3 Mar 08
I think the shopfront will be a wide one involving more than one of the existing stores, work has already started and includes work on the carpark under the bowl.
A market is under discussion by the Bitterne traders and should go ahead pending agreement.
Also, the pigeons can be a problem in the precinct, especialy near the food shops, and feeding them should be discouraged.
Posted by: Nobby on 11:07am Mon 3 Mar 08
Chas49 wrote:
I think the shopfront will be a wide one involving more than one of the existing stores, work has already started and includes work on the carpark under the bowl.
A market is under discussion by the Bitterne traders and should go ahead pending agreement.
Also, the pigeons can be a problem in the precinct, especialy near the food shops, and feeding them should be discouraged.
Ah good point Chas, I wondered what they were doing with the building works under the bowling alley. I am glad its not replacing the Sainsbury's home store cos whilst it is a bit empty, it is a more upmarket brand than what we could ended up with.

And I agree about the pigeons - there seem to be a number of simpletons who wander around the precinct feeding the flying rats.
I don't much like Woolworths but at least it makes it more like a High Street and prevents the shops from lying empty.
Posted by: redfield, Winchester on 1:28pm Mon 3 Mar 08
"Employing more than 15 staff"
How many more? 1, 2 3?? Why not just say 'employing 18 staff' or whatever
Posted by: Banker on 2:00pm Mon 3 Mar 08
debbi wrote:
what's the point in opening a new, smaller store in a small shopping
precinct when the store in town was perfectly fine (apart from not
having a customer lift or excelator going down) it just seems stupid!
they should have kept the store in town!
The one in town might've been fine for customers, but the bottom line was, they couldn't - or didn't want to - afford the rent there
Posted by: Markmag, Southampton on 2:11pm Mon 3 Mar 08
Woolworth's shops have actually been making a loss recently - a number of their core areas such as Music/DVD have been hit by supermarkets, internet purchases etc. To turn it around they are looking to have a lot less stock so that rather than have items sit on shelves for months the time it takes to make profit on stock is far shorter.
To that end it makes sense that the number of large city centre stores will be reduced and where this leaves smaller areas (such as Bitterne) without a store to get to easily they will open up a smaller store there.
Posted by: City centre resident on 5:47pm Mon 3 Mar 08
Meanwhile us in city centre have to go to Bitterne, Shirley ,Woolston,or Portswood to visit Woolies.Glad I have a free bus pass.A Woolies back in East street would be handier Wilko`s even better.
Posted by: Condor Man, Southampton on 6:34pm Mon 3 Mar 08
The old Fopp site in the Marlands would be an ideal location for a new Woolies or a Wilkinsons. Also the old QS below bar could be converted. I'm sure a market for pick & mix is still there.
Posted by: TheBeen, Southampton on 7:27pm Mon 3 Mar 08
Im sure Woolworths no what they are doin!
Posted by: sean, woolston on 8:13pm Mon 3 Mar 08
Family Man wrote:
Chas wrote: I understand it\'s going beneath the Bitterne Bowl where the hardware shop used to be. Also there may be some markets in the precinct, farmers and others.
Thanks! In which case it will be a tiny Woolworth\'s, in fact the smallest I have ever seen... I miss that hardware shop! It was very much of the \"old school\", stocking almost everything, however obscure, ands good knowledgeable service. The only one I know now that is like it is in Portswood, all the others have gone. Unfortunatley the big players like B&Q and Homebase have made them economically unviable.
There is an excellent 'old school' hardware store stocking everything you need at very reasonable prices by very helpfull staff in Woolston just down from the old 'Savages' which is now 'another Co-op
The Woolworths in Woolston is always busy, although it doesnt have a large selection of goods it has alot to offer local shoppers!
quote
Posted by: Layabout, Lordshill on 8:45pm Mon 3 Mar 08
Great News!
When is something going to be done about the Above Bar Ghost Town Centre?
Posted by: jonuv arc, cheese counter on 8:50pm Mon 3 Mar 08
sainsbury's won't give up that site in west end road, even if it's losing money. tesco's would love to have a store there, and as long as sainsbury's is the only 'major' supermarket in bitterne, it can continue to get away with providing overpriced, shoddy produce in that tatty old shop.
Posted by: Quite happy thanks, Local resident on 9:52pm Mon 3 Mar 08
jonuv arc wrote:
sainsbury's won't give up that site in west end road, even if it's losing money. tesco's would love to have a store there, and as long as sainsbury's is the only 'major' supermarket in bitterne, it can continue to get away with providing overpriced, shoddy produce in that tatty old shop.
There are numerous expensive Tesco Express and co-op stores locally, so I'm glad we have Sainsburys. The prices aren't the lowest, but the quality is usually good. And the home ware store is miles better than Woolies will be or the "upper floor" of Tesco in Bursledon, in my opinion.
Posted by: King Mush, Woolston on 12:24am Tue 4 Mar 08
Last time I bothered to shop at Woolies in Victoria Rd Woolston - everything was 6d
Posted by: Hants, Ocean Village on 12:51am Tue 4 Mar 08
The only reason the City branch was closed was that they were offered a 'good' deal by T K Max (The Chav's shop). They will be back in the city when a good unit comes available. The original plans for Southampton when West Quay was first dreamed up was that the pedestrianised part would be for banks and restaurants and that West Quay would be for shops. Something went wrong as John Lewis and M&S took up most of West Quay and left no room for a wider variety of stores. But like the Local Council, money comes first not the people of Southampton.
Posted by: JB Soton, Gosport on 7:00am Tue 4 Mar 08
King Mush wrote:
Last time I bothered to shop at Woolies in Victoria Rd Woolston - everything was 6d
Thats the wonder of woolworths !!!
Posted by: Alan, soton on 8:50am Tue 4 Mar 08
Something went wrong as John Lewis and M&S took up most of West Quay and left no room for a wider variety of stores. But like the Local Council, money comes first not the people of Southampton.

In no way was that a 'mistake'. Almost all shopping malls are designed in this way now, with at least one "flagship" unit to support a big name, which then acts a draw for people to visit the shopping centre as a whole. And the idea that West Quay does not have a wide variety of shops is baffling. Its pretty much got it all, and the overflow on to Above Bar Street is quite well mixed as well. The area up towards Tyrells is suffering I would say, and the Bargate mall continues to decline in my opinion.
Posted by: In the know, Southampton on 9:47am Tue 4 Mar 08
Hants wrote:
The only reason the City branch was closed was that they were offered a 'good' deal by T K Max (The Chav's shop). They will be back in the city when a good unit comes available. The original plans for Southampton when West Quay was first dreamed up was that the pedestrianised part would be for banks and restaurants and that West Quay would be for shops. Something went wrong as John Lewis and M&S took up most of West Quay and left no room for a wider variety of stores. But like the Local Council, money comes first not the people of Southampton.
This is arrant nonsense. West Quay depended on having a large established department store as an "anchor" tenant. John Lewis were able to negotiate an excellent deal as the developers were so keen to get them on board. I believe other local shopping centres were offering a rent free deal to attract them.

Posted by: bus driver, southampton on 7:37pm Tue 4 Mar 08
woolies fan wrote:
i think they would do better back in town,it is so missed why put one in bitterne who goes there!! hopefully they will employ more friendly staff not like some of the miserable stoney face cows town employed.
thats not very nice to say about people i bet you have asked for help in there and i bet you have a miserable stoney face aswell as my wife worked in woolies in town.
Posted by: nick, soton on 4:47pm Wed 5 Mar 08
Tbh, I think Woolworths is a complete hole. Whatever store I have visited I am always amazed that they haven't gone bust considering their staff, the appearance of their stores, etc. What could you have bought in Woolworths that you could not have got elsewhere for cheaper?! It's music/DVD selection was a joke, especially in Soton considering that Virgin and HMV provided cheaper and better alternatives. I can't see the point of WH Smiths either, I guess that Xmas and greeting card sales keep them afloat.
Posted by: Vicky, Bitterne on 7:35pm Thu 6 Mar 08
steve wrote:
Woolworths closing in the City was no loss has it employed. rude staff including the Manager. To be honest they shouls close Shirley Branch as well . As for them going into Bitterne they be right at home there as most of the people in bitterne are rude or single mums....
Steve, clearly you don't live in Bitterne. I do, and i'm glad that another large store is coming. I am NOT a single mum or rude for that matter!

For those that have asked where it will be, its where the hardware store used to be, you cant miss the scaffolding!
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